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MINUTES
BAYFIELD COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE
PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC MEETING
JULY 16, 2015
1. Call to Order of Public Hearing: Chairman Rondeau called the public hearing to order
at 4:03 pm.
2. Roll Call: Bussey, Jardine, Rondeau and Strand – all present. Pocernich – Absent.
Others present were: Director-Rob Schierman, Jennifer Croonborg-Murphy-AZA, Josh
Rowley-AZA, and Krystal Hudachek - Secretary.
3. Affidavit of Publication: Schierman showed the audience the affidavit of publication.
4. Review of Meeting Format – Chairman Rondeau explained the procedure of the
meeting. He asked everyone who wished to speak to fill out a form; and stated they will
be asked to come forward and speak into the microphone.
5. Public Comment – relevant affairs to be addressed towards Planning and Zoning
Committee [ 3 minutes per citizen]
6. Minutes of Previous Meeting(s): Rondeau stated the minutes are from the June 19,
2015 meeting.
Jardine motioned to approve, Strand seconded. Bussey asked that some
changes be made (Pg.11 Line 6: land uses permitted by right are allowed in indicated
zoning districts provided that; Line 9: they comply with all county ordinances.; Line 21: be
imposed. Is there a clause saying “notwithstanding”,; Line 23: is a land use permit,; and
Pg.12 Line 2 & 3: Motion to amend carried. And Original motion as amended.). No
further discussion. Motion to approve with changes carried.
7. Public Hearing:
A. Michael Buran (Hughes) – second residence on a parcel [a 10.00–acre parcel
(Tax ID# 34603) [V.970 P. 695], described as in the N ½ of the N ½ of the NE ¼
of the NE ¼, Section 8, Township 47 North, Range 9 West, Town of Hughes,
Bayfield County, WI]
Michael Buran spoke in support, explaining that he has a garage with an
apartment above and he now would like to build a residence. Went to the town
meeting and they stated that the apartment cannot be used as a rental and he
does not intend to.
No one spoke in opposition.
File Report: Schierman stated there is town board approval and they indicated
that it complies with their comp plan. They also indicated that the “living quarters
above the garage may not be used as a rental. Meets all land use plan
requirements”. Croonborg-Murphy (passed out photos) stated this is a 10 acre
property with no current intension to subdivide so it is a density neutral request.
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The issue is that the apartment above the garage that they are living in now while
they are building their new house, they cannot build 150 feet from this structure
and meet the 75 foot setback so they are requesting a second residence on a
parcel. The apartment is more than 500 enclosed sq. ft. so it does not meet the
definition of a bunkhouse. The intended use is to use like a bunkhouse. Because
of the size of the enclosed living quarters and the proximity to the garage the
applicant is requesting a conditional use permit. Jardine asked if it was 43 acres,
Croonborg-Murphy stated it was 10 acres.
Discussion ended.
8. Adjournment of Public Hearing:
Strand made a motion to adjourn, Bussey seconded. Motion carried.
Adjourned at 4:12 pm.
9. Call to Order of Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting: Rondeau called the
meeting to order at 4:12 pm.
10. Roll Call: Bussey, Jardine, Rondeau and Strand – all present. Pocernich – Absent.
Others present were: Director-Rob Schierman, Jennifer Croonborg-Murphy-AZA, Josh
Rowley-AZA, and Krystal Hudachek - Secretary.
11. Business:
A. Michael Buran (Hughes) – second residence on a parcel [a 10.00–acre parcel
(Tax ID# 34603) [V.970 P. 695], described as in the N ½ of the N ½ of the NE ¼
of the NE ¼, Section 8, Township 47 North, Range 9 West, Town of Hughes,
Bayfield County, WI]
Strand motioned to approve with the condition that the existing garage /
living quarters may not be a rental. Jardine seconded. No further discussion.
Motion carried.
B. Craig & Patti Vernon (Barksdale) – home-based business & on premise sign
(country store) [i.e. on-site sales of merchandise/antiques] [a 35-acre parcel
(Tax ID #517), described as NW ¼ of the SE ¼ Less par in V.591 P.252, Section
33, Township 48 North, Range 5 West, Town of Barksdale, Bayfield County, WI]
Schierman stated that this application came to light after he received a phone
call from Glen at Premiere Signs about a sign for a business. The department did
some inquiring and found out that Patti would like to have a business a couple
months out of the year and that would need a permit. The property has been
surveyed and has come forward with the request. There is not town board
approval. It was sent out like normal but someone was on vacation so it did not
get processed. He received a call from the town chair of Barksdale who stated in
a general conversation about comprehensive plan items that there was a
discussion that ensued relative to this request. The town chair indicated that
there was no opposition to the request. If the committee sees fit to table this due
to lack of input it may not be heard again until September. This leads to the
timing of the next meeting, there is only one special use request and most times
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the meeting is canceled, and the request is rolled over to the next month.
Rondeau asked if this is rolled over to September will this be a hardship for the
applicant, Croonborg-Murphy stated she is already operating the store. When
the decision is made, if any, it is important to capture the fact that she is allowed
only 75% of an accessory structure. They have gone through hoops to make this
part of their property. It used to be kiddy corner so there was no shared property
lines and they resurveyed their lines to make this part of their property. Jardine
stated he was ok with approving contingent upon town board approval. Bussey
asked when the town meets again. Schierman stated the first part of August.
Bussey is ok with approving contingent upon town board approval. Schierman
stated that if the town approved with conditions then it would need to come back
to the committee. Bussey agreed. Rondeau stated that in the motion you can
state that contingent upon town board approval and their conditions. Bussey
disagreed and said it would have to come back to the committee if conditions
were placed. How workable is this? Schierman stated that is workable, if the
town does not have conditions it can be issued if conditions it would need to
come back to the committee.
Bussey motioned to approve contingent upon town board approval and if
the town hasn’t approved it by the next meeting or recommends condition be put
on then that come back to the next meeting. Jardine seconded. No further
discussion. Motion carried.
C. Discussion and possible action regarding electronic on line permitting
process
Schierman explained that phase one of the online permitting process is nearly
complete. This is where the applicant enters their tax id number and select their
property then the computer program auto populates the application with all the
information that is needed to fill out a land use using a tax statement, information
like their legal description. Have to commend the company for the level of service
they provide, there are very sympathetic to our desires and wishes. They really
listen to the department. Have involved Krystal since she is the one that will be
working with this to issue permits and enter into the database. Everyone in the
front office is satisfied. Phase two will be the drag and drop plot plan using the
most recent flown photography. The computer program will come up with the
dimensions of the structure that the applicant wants to build using the dimension
they entered. They will then be able to drag this icon and drop where they want it
on the aerial. The computer program is intelligent enough to know the scale and
will scale it to size and measure the distances from property lines that are in the
program along with wetlands, roads, streams etc. There will then be a summary
page and if there is something wrong they can click and go to the page and make
adjustments. This is also touch screen friendly. The developer just recently used
this as a presentation at a national convention that is how well this program will
operate. There is not a government entity anywhere in the country that is using
this technology that we are aware of. This is ground breaking. Bussey asked if
phase one is implemented yet or when it will be. Schierman answered, not until
phase two is complete. Will share a link with the committee. Bussey asked the
status on the new aerial photography. Schierman stated that is should be
available by November. Croonborg-Murphy added that google maps has some
overlays. Rondeau asked to have this as an update on the agenda for next
month.
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D. Committee members discussion(s) regarding matters of the P & Z
Department
Jardine mentioned the special use permits for a residence in an Ag district that
there needs to be more awareness or educations. Schierman stated on July 3rd
he was on public radio talking about this issue and what is permitted by right.
There also there could be some outreach done, and pamphlets may be a good
idea.
Strand asked about the budget bill that was signed. Schierman stated it was
signed into law and now the zoning world is in chaos. Rondeau has the
understanding it was only for towns that are unincorporated. Schierman
explained that is not the case. Croonborg-Murphy stated that no one knows
how to interpret the language. Kay Lutze is the shoreland representative and is
working on how to write a model ordinance. Schierman stated this could have
huge effect on the County.
Croonborg-Murphy stated that when thinking about scheduling the next month’s
meeting the one special use request is in Fred’s area and it is the gentleman that
would like a game farm / deer yard.
12. Monthly Report / Budget and Revenue
Schierman stated that there are 41 more sanitary permits issued compared to last year
and 56 more land use issued compared to last year.
Jardine motioned to receive and place on file, Bussey seconded. No further
discussion. Motion carried.
13. Adjournment
Rondeau called adjournment at 4:38 pm.
Prepared by KMH on 7/17/2015; given to RDS 7/17/2015
Approved by RDS on 7/21/2015
Sent to ZC on 7/21/2015 & 9/16/2015
Final Approval on 9/17/2015
cc: (after final approval)- (8) Supervisors, Cty Admin./Clerk, DNR, Web
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