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ZC Planning and Zoning Public Hearing and Meeting – August 18, 2022
MINUTES
BAYFIELD COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE
PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC MEETING
AUGUST 18, 2022
1. Call to Order of Public Hearing: Chairman Rondeau called the public hearing to order
at 4:04pm.
2. Roll Call: Pocernich, Ray, Rondeau, Silbert, and Strand – all present.
Other’s present: Director-Ruth Hulstrom, Tracy Pooler-AZA, Mckenzie Slack-AZA, Erica
Meulemans-AZA, Mark Abeles-Allison-County Administrator, Marty Milanowski, John
Carlson-Corp Counsel, Heather Doubek-Secretary.
3. Affidavit of Publication: Hulstrom stated the affidavit of publication was fulfilled.
Published August 2, 2022, and August 9, 2022.
4. Public Comment –John Nyara, Chairman of the Town of Barksdale, informed the
committee that the first or second week of May 2022 he went to the zoning office to get a
permit for their new ice-skating rink building. After six or seven trips to the zoning office
they got everything squared away. Each time he spoke with someone at the zoning office
he received different information and different pricing. He stated that at the last meeting a
month ago the permit was approved. It has been four weeks and he is looking for the
status of the permit. He has not received it in the mail. He asked the committee if anyone
would like to comment. Rondeau stated that the committee does not usually comment on
public comment. Nyara asked what the next steps are and if he can start building without
a permit. Rondeau confirmed to Hulstrom that she could respond to Nyara during public
comment.
Hulstrom responded that construction should not begin without an issued permit and
confirmed that the start of construction is when laying concrete foundation or building
vertical walls if no concrete is being installed. Hulstrom further stated that due to the
loss of a staff member that could issue permits, the department is now working on
training other staff members to be able to issue permits and the data entry that goes
along with the permit process. Abeles-Allison added that the county is working on
expediting the process and doing better every day. Will update Nyara in the next several
days on when he will receive the permit. Nyara further stated the Town of Barksdale is
considering dropping out of Bayfield County zoning. They feel they would be better off
without Bayfield County zoning if things do not get better and the law will allow.
5. Corp Counsel Comment(s)- John Carlson stated that there are a lot of things that need
to be expedited to get things moving. Current zoning code has areas that need to be
changed. One of them being the short-term rentals. Current process is cumbersome and
does not need to be that way anymore. Process was developed back when there was
more that the county could say and do on short-term rentals and now do not have that
ability. Carlson was looking for the committee’s blessing to move forward with rewriting
this portion of the ordinance. Carlson would like to see the process completely done in
house versus the long drawn out process that it is currently. Conditional use requirements
for units four and above and under that is special use permits with requirements for town
board approval and notice. Carlson further states if we cannot restrict short-term rentals
no purpose to have the extra work involved. Strand asked and Carlson confirmed that
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there would no longer be conditional use permits but Class A special use permits. Strand
stated his concern is that we remain consistent with the various comprehensive plans and
would like to see the town board’s recommendation. Silbert agreed with Strand and
confirmed with Carlson that substantial evidence is required to deny use. Carlson clarified
that for conditional use permits you have to have substantial evidence to put restrictions
on the conditions. The substantial evidence has to relate to the purpose of having it as a
condition and the substantial evidence cannot just be the neighbors not wanting that
particular use in their neighborhood. Discussion continued on what conditions can be
added to the ordinance and how are the conditions enforced. Silbert would like to see
some protection for the taxpayers. Rondeau asked Carlson on timing. Carlson stated a
rough draft could be done next month. Hulstrom asked whether it applied to a Class A
permit or just a land use permit. Carlson confirmed Class A permit. Ray commented on
the topic as well. Pocernich confirmed with Carlson that short term rentals less than 29
days have room tax. Strand withdraws his request that town boards be notified based on
the right to rent laws.
6. Review of Meeting Format – Chairman Rondeau explained the procedure of the
meeting. He asked everyone who wished to speak to fill out a form; and stated they will
be asked to come forward and speak into the microphone.
7. Public Hearing:
A. Robert Schierman, agent on behalf of the Town of Russell, owner/Paul
Tribovich (Russell) in petition for ordinance amendment (Section 13-1-63).
Deregulate the town of Russell overlay.
Robert Schierman, as agent of the Town of Russell, spoke on behalf of the
request. Schierman stated in 2009 the Town of Russell adopted the Town of
Russell overlay. This addressed historic properties, old growth properties and
subdividing. Originally in 2009 they wanted the town to provide input on
subdivisions less than 20 acres. Few years back, this was amended and brought
the land area requirement down to 9 ½ acres. Town has had this on their agenda
every month since March 2022. The town is asking for the zoning committee and
the county to deregulate the Town of Russell overlay. The town has found that over
the years it is causing delays in development because of the additional
bureaucracy of getting the approval of the town board. Additional costs with the
cost of surveying. Delays in property owners being able to pass on their property
to their heirs. The town would like to remove all the old growth language and the
dimensional requirements. The Town of Russell wants people to be able to
subdivide their property just like anywhere else in the county. If this is approved by
the committee and the county board then everybody in the Town of Russell would
be subject to the same subdivision control ordinance as all the other towns.
Schierman states this will be easier for the Town of Russell and the zoning
department.
Rondeau asked three times if anyone would like to speak in support. No one
spoke. Rondeau asked three times if any would like to speak in opposition. No
one spoke.
Discussion ended.
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B. Richard & Nancy Sauer (Iron River) in operation of micro-brewery (Tax ID
20431) (Doc# 2022R-594854), described as Original Plat of Iron River, Lot 10,
Block 3, Town of Iron River, Bayfield County, WI.
Richard Sauer spoke on behalf of the request. Business is already in existence
and has been running for three years. They are looking to move their business to
another location in the Town of Iron River.
Rondeau asked three times if anyone would like to speak in support. No one
spoke. Rondeau asked three times if any would like to speak in opposition. No
one spoke.
Discussion ended.
8. Adjournment of Public Hearing:
Silbert made a motion to adjourn the public hearing, Ray seconded. Motion carried, 5-
0. Adjourned at 4:40 pm.
9. Call to Order of Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting: Rondeau called the
meeting to order at 4:40 pm.
10. Roll Call: Pocernich, Ray, Rondeau, Silbert, and Strand - all present.
Other’s present: Director- Ruth Hulstrom, Tracy Pooler-AZA, Mckenzie Slack-AZA, Erica
Meulemans-AZA, Mark Abeles-Allison-County Administrator, Marty Milanowski,
Heather Doubek – Secretary.
11. New Business
A. Town of Russell, owner/Paul Tribovich (Russell) – Petition to amend
ordinance (Section 13-1-63)
File Report: Hulstrom stated that the background information from Rob
Schierman was helpful. She informed the committee that the notice of the
ordinance amendment was sent out to the towns by certified mail. The only
confirmations not received back were from Mason and Port Wing.
Pocernich motion to send to the county board for approval based upon
consistency with the town’s comprehensive plan, town board recommendation,
maintenance of safe and healthful conditions in the community, the general
welfare, and economic impacts of the proposal, seconded by Ray. Motion carried,
5-0.
B. Richard & Nancy Sauer (Iron River) – Operation of micro-brewery
File Report: Hulstrom informed the committee that this has been reviewed by
McKenzie Slack the AZA for this area. Request is for a micro-brewery, changing
the use of the existing structure which requires a conditional use permit for
proposed use change. Micro-brewery is proposing 2,340 gallons per year, which
meets the standard for a micro-brewery. Staff did reach out for some more detail
for the terms of use. Typical hours of operation are 3pm to 10pm. Aside from
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special events. They do have three off street parking stalls along with on-street
parking. They have a 30-person occupancy load for the building.
Silbert motion to approve based upon consistency with the town’s comprehensive
plan, town board recommendation, maintenance of safe and healthful conditions
in the community, the general welfare and economic impacts of the proposal
seconded by Pocernich. Motion carried, 5-0.
12. Other Business
C. Discussion and Possible action regarding waiver of fees for Ben Shanks
(Grand View) (Tax ID# 16635).
Hulstrom confirmed that the Shank’s authorized agent, Mike Furtak submitted a
land use permit application for a proposed residence along with the sanitary
permit application on June 21, 2022. The AZA reviewed both the land use and
the sanitary applications on July 11, 2022. She realized a maintenance
agreement was needed so she reached out to the plumber. The AZA performed
her onsite inspection on July 15, 2022. At that time, the AZA became aware that
footings had already been poured which would indicate construction has started
without an issued permit. The department followed up with a violation letter being
emailed to the authorized agent, Mike Furtak and mailed a copy of the violation
letter to the property owners. The department heard back from both the agent
and the property owner. The property owner, Ben Shanks did speak at last
month’s meeting. The property owner did come into the office and pay the after
the fact fees. Silbert asked what the total after the fact fee is. Hulstrom
confirmed that the after the fact fee is double fees and confirmed that in this
instance an additional $1,700.00 is the fee for starting construction without an
issued permit. Silbert asked for confirmation on the clearing by the lake and if an
additional fee needs to be collected. Hulstrom stated that the violation letter did
state several items but in terms of the department being reasonable to the
situation and that construction had clearly been started on the structure the
department prioritized it and felt it was important to collect the after the fact fee
for the land use permit application. After discussion with the property owner the
department decided not to pursue any additional fees. Strand asked for
confirmation that the application was submitted on June 21, 2022. He asked if the
department knows when construction began, and Hulstrom stated she did not.
Abeles-Allison asked for confirmation that clearing by the lake does not
constitute the start of construction. Pooler confirmed that the department does
allow the property owner with an active pursuit for a permit to do some clearing of
the property.
Strand motion to deny the waiver of the after the fact fees, seconded by Ray.
Motion carried, 4-1.
D. Discussion and Possible Action regarding short-term rental ordinance
amendment.
Hulstrom informed the committee that the staff is in support of John Carlson’s
proposal of the short-term rental ordinance amendment. Hulstrom would like to
see more of an administrative review process, since the town or the committee do
not have a lot of oversight over the short-term rentals. Ideally, Hulstrom would like
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to see some other tools available as the staff has more time to manage the short-
term rentals better. Would like to see the county code align with the state statute.
Pocernich motion to direct our corp. counsel to update the short-term rental
ordinances, seconded by Silbert. Motion carried, 5-0
E. Discussion and Possible Action regarding multiple unit development
language (MUD).
Hulstrom informed the committee with the other items that have come up within
the department she has not been able to do further research on this. The
committee will see this on future agendas. Hulstrom asked for committee
recommendations on what should be prioritized. Strand states other items have
more priority than this at this time. Silbert agrees with Strand but does not want
this to be forgotten. Pocernich agrees with Strand. Permits need to be prioritized
at this time. This can be looked at again in six to eight months or let corporate
counsel work on it. Hulstrom will look at adding this back into the agenda in three
months once the department is through the development season.
F. Discussion regarding comprehensive plan update.
Hulstrom updated the committee that there have been two comprehensive plan
steering committee meetings. Covered a lot trying to get up to speed on the
direction of the data and trends within the county. Last meeting consisted mainly
of the Northwest Regional Planning Group providing a basic overview of the
statistics and trends in the county. County is trending upward in age, and this will
continue to happen. And looking at what factors are involved to plan for this.
Hulstrom would like to see as many towns involved as possible in getting their
future land use maps and comprehensive plans updated consecutively with the
county’s. Hulstrom asked for the Committees input on how the information can
best be shared with the towns and Northwest Regional Planning Group. Further
discussion continued.
G. Minutes of Previous Meeting (July 21, 2022):
Ray motion to approve the minutes from July 21, 2022 as presented, seconded by
Silbert. Motion carried, 5-0
H. Committee members discussion regarding matters of the Planning and
Zoning Department
Strand requested a welcome and introduction of the new secretary, Heather
Doubek.
Strand commented that the conditional use permit issue has him concerned. He
feels as a committee they need information, education, and guidance on what the
committee can and cannot do. Strand suggested that the ordinances need to be
reviewed and updated. Hulstrom commented that her and Abeles-Allison have
discussed pursuing a full code rewrite in the future. There are areas within the code
that conflict with state statutes that exist today or are unclear. This is making it very
difficult for the staff to do their jobs in a timely manner. Staff has been having to
reach out to resources, including corporate counsel and the DNR to help them
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interpret the code that exists for Bayfield County zoning. Potentially looking at a
grant to help with the code rewrite process that is due in November. Hulstrom
stated that she will work with Abeles-Allison on this.
Ray stated that he was contacted by a constituent that applied for a permit in April
2022 and has now ran into a delay until May 2023. Permits are currently only good
for one year and there is no administrative ability for the department to extend
permits. Ray proposing that corporate counsel give us some language that the
committee can approve and forward to the county board to update our ordinance
that the zoning director have the administrative ability to extend any permit if
needed. Ray would like to see this on the agenda for the next meeting. Abeles-
Allison asked Ray to confirm he is proposing a 24-month permit. Ray verified he
is proposing that the zoning director can extend any permit for an additional 12
months if needed.
Pocernich confirmed with the committee that they have been receiving the emails
he has been forwarding to them with complaints on delays in permits. Silbert
agrees with Pocernich that the permits need to get processed.
13. Monthly Report / Budget and Revenue
Hulstrom reported that both new sanitary and land use permit applications
continue to come in. The number of land use permits for July 2022 are just under
July of 2021. Sanitary permits for July 2022 are also just under July of 2021.
Anticipating that the issuance of permits for August won’t be as rocky with
additional staff being able to issue permits. Hulstrom further stated that the way
the department operated in the past the assistant zoning administrators and the
director did not issue or have the knowledge to issue permits. This contributed to
the slow-down in the process along with the current circumstances of the
department. The staff is doing their jobs to the best of their abilities every day.
Hulstrom would like to see the processes within the office streamlined. Abeles-
Allison stated that new staff has been added to the department and this should
help a lot. The department is making progress.
Silbert motion to receive and place on file the monthly report, seconded by Ray.
Motion carried, 5-0
14. Adjournment
Rondeau called adjournment at 5:26 pm.
Prepared by HRD on 8/31/22; given to REH on 8/31/22
Approved by REH on 9/8/22
Sent to PZC on 9/14/22
Final Approval on 9/15/22 (P&Z Comm)
cc: (after final approval)- (8) Supervisors, Cty Admin, Clerk, DNR, Web
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