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Planning and Zoning Committee Public Hearing and Meeting – July 20, 2023
MINUTES
BAYFIELD COUNTY PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE
PUBLIC HEARING AND PUBLIC MEETING
JULY 20, 2023
1. Call to Order of Public Hearing: Chairman Rondeau called the public hearing to
order at 4:00pm.
2. Roll Call: Pocernich, Ray, Rondeau, Silbert, and Strand – all present.
Others present were: Director-Ruth Hulstrom, Tracy Pooler-AZA, Alessandro Hall-
AZA, Franki Gross-Secretary, Corp Counsel John Carlson, Bayfield County
Administrator Mark Abeles-Allison, County Board Supervisors Marty Milanowski &
Madelaine Rekemeyer.
3. Affidavit of Publication: Hulstrom showed the audience the affidavit of publication
and the certified mailing receipts. Hulstrom stated the Affidavit of Publication was
fulfilled. Published Tuesday, July 4th, and Tuesday, July 11th, 2023.
4. Public Comment: Chairman Rondeau stated at this time, we will open a meeting for
public comment limited to 3 minutes per citizen. If you wish to speak, make sure you
come forward. Make sure the microphones are on. The little red light will come on.
State your name so we have it for the record.
Karl Kastrosky passed out a handout to the Committee. Spoke of concerns about the
timeliness of permit issuance. Mr. Kastrosky spoke of there not being an increase in
applications that he is aware of, that would cause such a delay in issuance and views
the problem being within the Department and askes the Committee to address this
issue.
Roger Johnson spoke regarding Across the Pond Veterans Park. He stated he is
there to provide the Committee with an update on what’s been done so far. Mr.
Johnson gave a summary and went on to inquire on what is holding up the issuance
of the CUP. Mr. Johnson stated that the project is fundraiser/grant based and that
there are no readily available funds so having the CUP be issued so projects can begin
as soon as the funds are obtained is critical.
Joyce Ciembronowicz spoke regarding Across the Pond Veteran’s Park. Ms.
Ciembronowicz states she is in attendance in support of the issuance of the CUP.
Delays in the permitting has cost the project thousands of dollars and the stalled permit
is only going to cost the project more. Fundraising and grant money is essential to this
project and the permit needs to be issued so they can move forward stated Ms.
Ciembronowicz.
Mike Furtak spoke regarding Across the Pond Veteran’s Park. Mr. Furtak stated he
doesn’t understand what the holdup is with the permit issuance. The Committee
approved the CUP and yet in 8 months the department hasn’t issued it. Mr. Furtak
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acknowledges the fact that there is a violation on the property in the accessory
structure/garden shed and he will be applying for a permit for that however he doesn’t
agree that the violation should hold up issuance of a prior approved for issuance
permit. Mr. Furtak also stated the department also raised concerns regarding
Impervious Surface. Mr. Furtak passed out a handout to the Committee. Mr. Furtak
read an excerpt from the Bayfield County Ordinance that states that they are excluded
from impervious surface requirements. Across the Pond Veterans Park had a
Stormwater Management Plan to address the impervious surface standards and they
meet the requirements put forth in the Ordinance and therefore they are excluded. Mr.
Furtak stated the last item to be addressed is the required screening plan. Until the
campground is built there is nothing to screen. The department should not be
concerned with or wish to use this as a reason for delays in issuing the permit this at
this time.
5. Review of Meeting Format – Chairman Rondeau explained the procedure of the
meeting. He asked everyone who wished to speak to fill out a form; and stated they
will be asked to come forward and speak into the microphone.
6. Public Hearing:
A. A petition by Ruth Hulstrom, Director of Planning and Zoning, on behalf of
the Bayfield County Planning and Zoning Committee, requesting
amendments to the Bayfield County Zoning Code of Ordinances, including
the following: Amendment of Section 13-1-26(a)(2) to remove provisions
pertaining to using non-shoreland substandard lots served by a public sanitary
sewer as building sites.
Hulstrom read the Ordinance and stated to the Committee that removing
provisions pertaining to using non-shoreland substandard lots served by a public
sanitary sewer is the proposal the department supports provided setbacks can be
met. The current language in the Ordinance doesn’t support sub-standard lots of
record to be buildable due to lot size requirements and the proposal would allow
for that if setback requirements were met.
Mike Furtak spoke in support of this proposal. This amendment makes complete
sense to him.
Rondeau asked if anyone else like to speak in favor of. No one spoke. He opened
the floor for opposition. No one spoke.
Discussion ended.
B. A petition by Ruth Hulstrom, Director of Planning and Zoning, on behalf of
the Bayfield County Planning and Zoning Committee, requesting
amendments to the Bayfield County Zoning Code of Ordinances, including
the following: Amendment Creating Section 13-1-62A “Moratorium on the
placement of shipping containers / intermodal containers in Bayfield County” in
Bayfield County Ordinance Title 13 “Zoning Code.”
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Hulstrom stated that per the Committee’s request Section 13-1-62(A) creating a
8-monthMoratorium on importing or placing shipping containers in the county. It
would allow for temporary placement, no more than 12 months on each parcel of
land through a temporary placement permit. After the temporary permit expiration,
the shipping container placed would need to meet the new standards developed.
Rondeau asked if anyone would like to speak in favor of. No one spoke. He
opened the floor for opposition. No one spoke.
Discussion ended.
7. Adjournment of Public Hearing:
Silbert made a motion to adjourn, Ray seconded. Motion carried. 5-0 Adjourned
at 4:20pm.
8. Call to Order of Planning and Zoning Committee Meeting: Rondeau called the
meeting to order at 4:21pm.
9. Roll Call: Pocernich, Ray, Rondeau, Silbert, and Strand – all present.
Others present were: Director-Ruth Hulstrom, Tracy Pooler-AZA, Alessandro Hall-
AZA, Franki Gross-Secretary, Corp Counsel John Carlson, Bayfield County
Administrator Mark Abeles-Allison, County Board Supervisors Marty Milanowski &
Madelaine Rekemeyer.
10. New Business:
A. A petition by Ruth Hulstrom, Director of Planning and Zoning, on behalf of
the Bayfield County Planning and Zoning Committee, requesting
amendments to the Bayfield County Zoning Code of Ordinances, including
the following: Amendment of Section 13-1-26(a)(2) to remove provisions
pertaining to using non-shoreland substandard lots served by a public sanitary
sewer as building sites.
Hulstrom noted that the department sent certified mailings out to all the Townships
as required and had the Town of Barksdale’s mailing returned and did not receive
signature cards back from the Town of Bayfield, Town of Bell, Town of Hughes.
Strand moved to forward to the full County Board with the recommendation
to approve this Ordinance amendment. Ray seconded. Pocernich asked if the
motion needed to say if setback requirements are met. Hulstrom replied no it does
not as there is current ordinance language that requires all setbacks be met. No
further discussion. Motion carried. 5-0
B. A petition by Ruth Hulstrom, Director of Planning and Zoning, on behalf of
the Bayfield County Planning and Zoning Committee, requesting
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amendments to the Bayfield County Zoning Code of Ordinances, including
the following: Amendment Creating Section 13-1-62A “Moratorium on the
placement of shipping containers / intermodal containers in Bayfield County” in
Bayfield County Ordinance Title 13 “Zoning Code.”
Hulstrom noted that the Town of Kelly said they are opposed to the Moratorium
on placement of shipping containers. Rondeau asked if they gave a reason why.
Hulstrom read the Towns response and reasoning for recommendation of
opposition due to shipping container use meeting the Comprehensive Plan of the
Town. Silbert stated he received an email in support of the Ordinance Amendment.
Silbert motioned to recommend approval to the County Board creating
Section 13-1-62A Moratorium on importing shipping containers to Bayfield County.
Ray seconded. Strand motioned to amend the motion to add the following
language at the end of section 1(D) would read “this provision shall also apply to
unpermitted containers that were placed after March 30th, 2021, of the
Amendatory Ordinance”. Silbert seconded motion to amend. Hulstrom asked for
clarification on if Strand meant to just include, "this provision shall also apply to
unpermitted containers that were placed after March 30th, 2021”, in his amended
motion and not include “of the Amendatory Ordinance. Strand confirmed that is
what he meant. No further discussion. Motion carried to amend original motion.
5-0 Ray stated he doesn’t see anything that explicitly excludes shipping containers
that are being used for shipping and wonders how that is going to be addressed.
Hulstrom stated this Ordinance is for permanent placement and/or long-term
usage. Pocernich asked how the department would determine what is permanent
and temporary. Corp Counsel John Carlson spoke and stated that the language
in the Ordinance states shipping containers housed in Bayfield County, not those
in transit. Those that are being used for shipping are not going to be affected by
this Moratorium. Motion carried for amended motion. 5-0
Agenda Review and Alteration
C. Town of Barnes (Barnes) – Public/Municipal building in R-RB zoning district
(salt/sand shed). Tax ID #2913 is a 28 acre property located in the SE ¼ of the SW
¼ less E 397’ of S 1113’ in V.307 P.298, Section 28, Township 45N, Range 9 W,
Town of Barnes.
Hulstrom noted that the Town of Barnes is requesting a Special Use Permit to
allow for a public municipal building, or a salt shed, to be placed on Tax ID# 2913
in a Residential-Recreational Business zoning district. Hulstrom stated the Town
is looking to replace an old salt shed that's located just to the South of the parcel
that will be the new location for the salt shed and to do the placement a Class B
Special Use Permit is needed. Hulstrom stated the proposed location is near the
existing town hall and other town buildings. The Town recommended approval
based on the Town Board draft meeting minutes that were provided to the
department by the Clerk, said Hulstrom.
Strand moved to approve based on community welfare; for human health
and safety; and prevention of water pollution, with the suggestion that the Town
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request a rezone for both tax parcels 2913 and 2916 to municipal in the future. Ray
seconded. No further discussion. Motion carried. 5-0
11. Other Business
D. Minutes of Previous Minutes: (June 15, 2023)
Silbert motioned to approve the Minutes of the June 15, 2023, meeting.
Strand seconded. No further discussion. Motion carried. 5-0
F. Discussion and Possible Action regarding amendment of Zoning Code 13-1- 62
(White River Ag, owner/Richard Donner, Atty).
Hulstrom stated the applicant submitted a request for an ordinance amendment
to allow campgrounds through a Conditional Use permitting process in an Ag-1 or
Agricultural 1 zoning district, per Bayfield County, section 13-1-104, any petition
for amendment submitted by other than a governmental body shall be
accompanied by a fee specified in the fee schedule, The department is looking for
input from the Committee as to whether or not there's any interest from the County
to take this Ordinance Amendment up or whether it's going to be on the applicant
or the property owner to pursue the Ordinance Amendment. Silbert noted he has
a suggestion that could be acceptable to all. Silbert stated he drove to the site,
located it on the map & generally supports campground usage in this area. It is
close to, less than ¼-mile from parcels zoned F-1 on the north side of Brown Rd.,
where a campground is a permissible use, and respectfully suggests to the
applicant that they seek to rezone the subject property to F-1 instead of amending
the Ordinance. Silbert moved to table the Ag-1 Classification Ordinance
Amendment of White River AG and respectfully request that they apply for a rezone
of the sighted property to F-1 zoning, where it is most compatible with the proposed
campground. Strand seconded. Pocernich stated Tabling is not the proper way
to proceed and asked if it’s true you can put a cement and concrete plant, a sewage
disposal plant, dog kennels, fairgrounds, machine shop, welding, asphalt plants,
salvage and scrap yards and sawmill and lumber yards in an Ag-1 district. If those
are permissible uses currently in an Ag-1 district what’s a campground's going to
hurt stated Pocernich. He believes the Committee should amend the ordinance
and include campgrounds in an Ag-1 with the CUP because a campground is less
intrusive on property than a sewage disposal plant, or a multi-unit development, or
a fairground, or a concrete plant, therefore he doesn’t support the motion to
Rezone. Ray stated that he recognizes Dennis's point, but to run our land use to
the lowest common denominator instead of maintaining our agricultural lands as
Ag lands. Ray would argue the County should be getting rid of those other CUP
opportunities in Ag-1 all together because they go against preservation of
Agricultural lands. Ray stated he is not opposed to allowing campgrounds in certain
situational cases but once you change the Ordinance the Committee’s hands are
tied and shall issue the permit if the standards are met. Pocernich asked if this
would be considered spot zoning. Silbert stated there is considerable F-1 zoning
already in the area so it would not be considered spot zoning. Silbert noted that to
allow campgrounds in an Ag-1 district by a CUP he believes there would be a rash
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of campgrounds and it's completely contrary to our comprehensive plan which we
use as a tool for, for planning and zoning. Strand stated he would like to point out
that campgrounds are not consistent with the County’s Adopted Farmland
Preservation Program or with the Agriculture Enterprise areas in the County.
Pocernich would like everyone to remember when the comprehensive plan was
created 27 years ago when it was called Smart Growth. It’s a living, breathing
document, made to be changed over time and adaptable to fit the need of the
community because a comprehensive plan is just a guide. Pocernich motioned to
suspend the rules and allow Mike Furtak to speak. Ray seconded. No further
discussion. Motion carried. 5-0 Furtak spoke and stated that he believes the
decision should be a local Town decision with a Class A Special Use and he
believes there is enough agriculture land for it not to pose a problem. Rondeau
closed public comment. Ray stated he is unclear on the process of what the
Committee is being asked to do and he is more inclined to decline taking action on
changing our ordinance and suggest that applying for F-1 zoning would be a
solution. The Committee asked Corp Counsel John Carlson for direction on how
to proceed. Pooler spoke but was unheard because his mic wasn’t on. Carlson
stated that the Committee isn’t required to act on this item at all because the
petitioner is asking without paying the appropriate fees and it’s the department that
is asking for direction on how to proceed. Silbert withdrew his motion but urges
the applicant to reapply but for a Rezone instead. Strand withdrew his second to
the motion but also strongly urges the applicant to apply for a Rezone which he will
support. Hulstrom reiterated the direction she understands the Committee wishes
to go regarding the White River Ag request is to communicate to the applicant that
the Committee supports rezoning the subject property to F-1 from A-1. Otherwise,
the applicant has the right to pursue the ordinance amendment to request a
campground be allowed in A-1 zoning district with a conditional use permit with the
understanding that they are responsible for the fee associated with processing the
request. Pocernich stated that the permissible uses in an Ag-1 district needs to
be looked at and addressed and Ray stated he would love to see something on
next month’s agenda. Strand noted that Zoning is in the process of doing a
comprehensive review and update and Strand believes that might be an
appropriate place and time to do it rather than trying to get it done next month. Ray
stated he believes it's simple to go down the list of the things that are Conditional
Use Permits right now in Ag land and say this appears to be incompatible and sort
through all of it next month.
G. Discussion and Possible Action regarding interpretation of animal
incineration/cremation.
Hulstrom stated that the Department received a request to place an animal
incineration or crematorium within the Bayfield County Business Park area
associated with a local veterinarian clinic. The Bayfield County Economic
Development Corporation that's making this request to see where and if this type
of use would fit within the Ag-1 Zoning District. Pocernich moved to suspend the
rules and allow Cole Rabaska to speak. Strand seconded. Motion carried. 5-0.
Mr. Rabaska had microphone difficulties and Bayfield County Administrator Mark
Abeles-Allison spoke on his behalf. Abeles-Allison stated that in an Ag-1 district
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currently there is no provision in the ordinance addressing a crematorium but there
are some similar uses. Animal hospitals and animal boarding facilities, as well as
cemeteries and dog kennels in Ag-1 districts are allowable uses and the
department is trying to get an interpretation from the Committee on where/how to
classify this use as it pertains to Veterinary uses in an Ag-1 district. Ray suggests
that the department interpret this use to fall under animal hospital uses as it
pertains to the code which is an allowable use in an Ag-1 district. Silbert asked
about the method for and time frame of the storage of carcasses. Marty
Milanowski commented that the animals are stored in coolers, large tank coolers,
and various sized coolers until cremated. Silbert asked if that was part of the
application and Pocernich stated that it was not but that the Committee would
condition the permit to require the dead animals to be refrigerated until cremated
and condition the time of storage of the dead animals. Strand stated he would like
to see this happen because he feels there is a need for this service in the area. It
supports agriculture and it promotes animal and human health and safety, and
Strand agrees with Ray on the interpretation. Rondeau also agrees with the other
Committee members. Pocernich stated that he must oppose this because it’s not
an allowable use in Ag-1, just like a campground, and if campground use isn’t going
to be allowed he can’t support allowing this use. Ray stated he would like to stay
in the crematorium discussion and not return to the campground topic and
Pocernich stated he was justifying his no vote on this. Strand asked if as a
committee they think this is permissible and cite that it could be permissible as part
of an Animal Hospital, does Corporate Counsel have issues with that. Carlson
stated the Committee does have the authority to define its terms however it wants,
so if they want to have animal hospital to include a crematorium, they certainly
could do that. Hulstrom noted currently in the ordinance there's nothing outlined
regarding crematoriums and the department is trying to consider whether it can be
ancillary to an animal hospital. Campgrounds to Pocernich's point, are included
in that classification list of uses. and there are certain zoning districts where it's
allowed and not allowed, so in this case, Hulstrom stated, the department's
looking for the Committee’s interpretation of can this fit under any of the existing
uses not specifically outlined in the classification list.
Ray moved based on public health, safety, and welfare, that we interpret
our Zoning Code that Animal Hospitals are considered to include animal
crematoriums. Pocernich asked if that going to be written in our code in
parentheses, Animal Hospital (crematorium) so 10 years from now, somebody
comes and wants it and the next Committee says no, it's not part of an Animal
Hospital. Ray moved to amend his motion to include that this interpretation shall
be entered into the code under the definition of Animal Hospital. Ray than withdrew
the amended motion and suggested if the Committee wants to make this part of
the ordinance that it gets put on the agenda for a future meeting and have a specific
discussion on an ordinance amendment and his original motion stands. Silbert
asked what if someone who is not a veterinarian or associated with an animal
hospital wants to open a crematorium. Pocernich stated they can’t because they
aren’t an animal hospital. Abeles-Allison stated what the Department is ultimately
asking is if a crematorium would be permissible in an Ag-1 district. Carlson noted
what he believes he is hearing is that the Committee wants to define Animal
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Hospital to include crematorium such that anyone can build a crematorium, if you
have the appropriate licensing. Strand seconded motion. No further discussion.
Motion carried. 4-1
H. Discussion and Possible Action regarding discontinuing courtesy notices for
Carmody maintenance program.
Hulstrom spoke regarding the courtesy notices the department sends out to
property owners for sanitary systems that are past due. She noted that the
Committee might have heard from residence regarding the septic maintenance
program. Due to department staff turnover, notices had not been sent in the
timeframe they typically would and thus created a bottleneck in the maintenance
program. Hulstrom stated that the public has become dependent on the
department and the courtesy notices but ultimately, maintenance of these private
sanitary systems is on the property owner to maintain properly. Property owners
are sent a courtesy notice when their system is 30 days past due; then at 60 days
past due a violation letter is sent urging the property owner to maintain their system
or the department would be required to send the property owner to enforcement.
About a year and a half ago the verbiage in the notices changed, stated
Hulstrom, and that language change was upsetting because it indicated that the
system was 30 days past due versus coming due for maintenance. However, the
department has always sent the courtesy notices when the system was past due
for maintenance. The department is only required to do enforcement and make the
property owner aware their system is passed due for service. Neither State code
nor county ordinance requires courtesy notices be sent. These courtesy notices
come at a decent cost to the county. Ray commented that he is unclear on what
has changed with sending out the courtesy notices again. Hulstrom stated that a
lot of staff time is put into phone calls, emails and discussing with property owners
their role in maintenance of their systems and a lot of the time people are unhappy.
Gross spoke and stated as the staff member that deals with the sanitary
maintenance program she has been cursed at, yelled at, treated rudely, and hung
up on multiple times when trying to explain the requirements of the maintenance
program. Gross has informed everyone she has contact with regarding the
sanitary system on their property and how septicsearch.com houses everything
you want to know about your system including when you are due or when you will
be due for servicing. Ray apologized for Gross having to endure such bad
behavior from folks and thanked her for informing the Committee of what is really
happening but does acknowledge the service the notices do provide and has
concerns if the notices were to just stop what the repercussions would be. Corp
Counsel Carlson recommended putting the responsibility for notices on the
pumpers as the property owners are their clients. Hulstrom stated that the
department would never just stop the notices without informing property owners
and pumpers prior. Hulstrom stated that the department would like some input
from the Committee on if they are interested in continuing to provide this service to
the property owners. Carlson stated that other Counties put the responsibility on
the pumpers for notifying their clients and the property owners to maintenance the
sanitary system. Abeles-Allison stated the pumpers have the same access to the
same database the department does so they can notify just like we do. Strand
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commented as a person who's received the courtesy postcard in the past, he
appreciated receiving it because it needs to be pumped once every three years
and frankly, it's easy to forget when the time is due. Strand also stated that he
appreciates that compliance, both voluntary and forced, is something that is
important to our water quality and our human health and safety, as well as issuing
permits on a timely basis and he finds it a bit of a conundrum in that we want it all
done but where do we prioritize. At this moment, Strand noted, he would have to
say prompt issuing of permits would be his highest priority. Ray stated that he sees
some management issues with this process of using staff time to mass mail
sanitary notices instead of using a company to complete the task. Pocernich
suggested that the department send out a letter to all tracked system property
owners stating the County will not be responsible for notification of due to be
serviced systems, include a list of service providers, inform them of where they can
locate the needed information like due dates, and be done with it. Strand stated
he would support what Pocernich is proposing. Silbert apologized to Gross for
having to endure that aspect of the job. Pocernich commented that he didn’t
realize how simple septicsearch.com was to use. He searched everyone’s record
and found out when everyone is due to be pumped. Pocernich noted the database
is very user friendly.
I. Committee Members discussion(s) regarding matters of the P & Z Department.
Silbert spoke and suggested the Committee cremate the Comprehensive Plan and
while they are at it recess the Zoning office and let everyone do whatever they want
to do. Pocernich stated he would support and seconded that sarcastically
speaking. Silbert spoke but was not heard due to mic not being turned on.
Pocernich responded stating the Comprehensive Plan, when it was first created,
and he was on the County Board when that occurred, was meant to change over
time. Hulstrom introduced the newest AZA, Alessandro Hall. Hall gave a brief
introduction about himself, and the Committee welcomed him to the department.
Pocernich stated that the issues Kastrosky brought up needs to be addressed.
Ray referred to Abeles-Allison to answer Pocernich’s question on how these
issues are being addressed. Abeles-Allison stated ultimately he will yield to
Hulstrom as she is the one working hard to control and streamline the workflow
and the process for all department staff. Abeles-Allison did comment that this is
a very busy time, but more importantly there's a process that planning and zoning
is following, a rigorous process, to make sure that the department is complying with
the ordinances that we have established. In addition, there's the realization that
we've got several people waiting, and sometimes it's not fair to move one person
up the waiting list just because they have a very loud voice. Ray asked if there are
several applications that are 8 months old waiting for a CUP to be issued.
Hulstrom replied that that situation is very unique, and the department has been
working with Rodger Johnson & Mike Furtak to remedy the current violation on
the site and get the CUP issued but the Ordinance is very clear in not allowing for
permits to be issued when there are violations. Rondeau commented about what
he hears most often are delays because the department needs one more thing and
then they need another one thing and so on. Hulstrom replied that the applications
are received in various levels of completeness and the AZA’s do their best to ask
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for all the documents that are needed at once, but sometimes other documents are
required and must be asked for later in the review process. Pocernich asked if a
permit can be issued with conditions that violations are to be rectified within a time
parameter and Carlson stated no, technically the Ordinance prohibits permit
issuance on sites with violations. Carlson stated the Code needs to be rewritten
so the department is clear on what is to be enforced, and so the public understands
what is being required from them and it’s not going to be easy. Ray would like for
the department to actively pursue funding for the code rewrite and not wait until
after the comprehensive plan is completed. Abeles-Allison stated that County
Board approved us to apply for grants and we've got three different applications
that we're preparing presently so the department isn’t waiting. As for application
issuance, Hulstrom would like for the Committee to keep in mind that there's a
multitude of things that staff are looking at when they're reviewing these
applications, and she understands that in some instances folks are wondering why
it takes so long. It's because we're looking at general zoning, we're looking at
shoreland zoning, we're looking at wetlands, we're looking at floodplain, we're
looking at sanitation. There are multiple facets of what the department reviews as
part of the application noted Hulstrom. It is not good practice in today's world when
it comes to planning and zoning, to issue permits over the counter commented
Hulstrom. You are just literally taking people's money and giving them a piece of
paper and that is not an appropriate way to do review of applications. Pocernich
voiced concerns about what Kastrosky said in that applications have not
drastically increased but the time to issuance has. Hulstrom stated she would
argue that is incorrect and isn’t sure where Kastrosky obtained his numbers but
feels he is incorrect. Hulstrom extended an offer to all the Committee members to
shadow the department to see how work is facilitated in the department if there's
to see if they have recommendations for improvements. The department is happy
to listen and figure out how we can make changes.
12. Monthly Report / Budget and Revenue
Hulstrom commented all applications of all types have increased and things are
very very busy. Issuance is taking about 4 weeks from submittal to issuance, with
some taking a bit longer to issue due to unforeseen circumstances.
Ray motioned to receive and place in file. Silbert seconded. No further
discussion. Motion carried. 5-0
13. Adjournment
Rondeau called adjournment at 6:02pm.
Prepared by FIG on 8/7/2023; given to RH 8/7/2023
Approved by RH on 8/9/2023
Sent to PZC on 8/9/2023
Final Approval on 8/17/2023
cc: (after final approval)- (8) Supervisors, Cty Admin, Clerk, DNR, Web